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Re: Initial NLS/Augment CHM meeting

To: Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cheyer <jonathan@cheyer.biz>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@cim3.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:44:42 -0800
Message-id: <420BD5CA.8060907@cim3.com>
Phil,    (01)

 > Peter, are you clear of your deliverable by Monday evening
 > if that works for everyone?    (02)

To be honest, I don't know, as it is a joint-community project 
that we committed to get out by Monday (which usually means 
"before people come to work on Tuesday"). I'd rather not commit 
to anything for Monday at all open, as it might even develop into 
an "all niter". Sorry.    (03)

Any time Tuesday (especially now that you've ruled out early 
morning) will be fine for me. Early Wednesday morning is fine 
with me too (assuming you want to do that before your CHM meeting 
some time during the day.)    (04)

Regards.  -ppy
--    (05)


Philip Gust wrote Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:17:16 -0800:
> Peter,
> 
> Thanks for the response.  I just picked up a Tuesday 7-9am meeting, so
> that morning is out.  It's possible that we could do a virtual meeting 
> via a
> phone conference for the first meeting.  It's primarily a planning meeting
> to map out the project.  It feels like some for of synchronous 
> collaboration
> would be appropriate for that.  I could be available any time Tuesday for
> such a meeting, including in the evening (I need to check my our home
> calendar and confirm if evening is preferred).  Peter, are you clear of 
> your
> deliverable by Monday evening if that works for everyone?
> 
> Thanks, too for the names. It would be great if Doug were able to persuade
> Jeff to get involved. I need to contact him now that his party is over 
> to see
> how he'd like to participate, so I'll mention that.  Hard to tell 
> whether Jeff is
> more appropriate as a resource or as an active member of the committee.
> I had a sense that Raylene might be appropriate as an active member if
> she's willing to participate.
> 
> So let me know which times work best for an initial phone meeting if that
> works for everyone.  As I said, Tuesday 7-9am is no longer good for me.
> 
> At 12:57 PM 2/10/2005, Peter Yim wrote:
> 
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> Thank you for the message.
>>
>> > like to see if both of you would be available for an
>> > organizing meeting next Monday or Tuesday ... breakfast
>> > ... or dinner either day ...
>>
>> I have a major deliverable due Mon (2/14), therefore Tuesday is 
>> preferred.
>>
>> That said, if there is only going to be the three of us, and if there 
>> is no added value in meeting face-to-face, may I suggest a phone 
>> conference (augmented by whatever synchronous collaboration tool as we 
>> see fit) instead. If we really need to meet in person, I am game too!
>>
>> > ... Raylene Pak ...
>>
>> The entry in my address book has her as <raylene_pak@sbcglobal.net>. I 
>> have not quite corresponded w(or worked directly) with her before, 
>> although we both know each other's name well. That would be a good 
>> starting point if you want to try.
>>
>> > ... Jeff Oloffson ...
>>
>> Bill probably meant Jeff Rulifson <Jeff.Rulifson@eng.sun.com>. 
>> Presumably, he was the system architect for AUGMENT. You can try him 
>> yourself, or (better still), have Doug get him involved. [I was 
>> actually surprised to not see him at Doug's 80th Birthday party!]
>>
>> > ...  best way to get Ken Harrenstien involved ...
>>
>> I guess if we work asynchronously through email, wiki, etc. (that 
>> actually would be the preferred mode for me too), I don't think we 
>> should have much problems. Comments ... other suggestions?
>>
>> -ppy
>> -- 
>>
>> Philip Gust wrote Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:25:43 -0800:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> It was great to see both of you again at Doug's party.  Thanks for
>>> your continued interest in working on the CHM pilot project to
>>> preserve Augment/NLS as part of the CHM's software conservation
>>> committee.
>>> I want to apologize again that it's taken so long to get back to you
>>> on getting an initial meeting.  I'm also our company's acting CFO
>>> and we need to have all our documents filed for FY 2004 by Feb 15th,
>>> so things have been just  little busy.  I'd like to see if both of you
>>> would be available for an organizing meeting next Monday or Tuesday.
>>> We could meet for breakfast, or get together for dinner either day.
>>> I know that Jonathan has some constraints that make morning or
>>> evening the best time to meet.  Peter, would you be available either
>>> of those days?
>>>
>>> There are several people that we should consider getting involved
>>> as active participants that we can talk about when we meet.
>>> At the party I met Raylene Pak, who still works with Augment and
>>> even recompiles it with some regularity. It would be great if she was
>>> interested in getting involved, but I don't know how to contact her.
>>> Do either of you know her well enough to have her contact info?
>>> Bill English also suggested someone named Jeff Oloffson who he
>>> says still might be at Sun and knows everything worth knowing
>>> about the Augment architecture.  Do either of you know anything
>>> about him?
>>> Finally, we need to think through the best way to get Ken
>>> Harrenstien involved.  I understand that it would be hard for him to
>>> meet in person frequently, but he's a really great guy and very
>>> knowledgeable.about running the Augment system.  We clearly
>>> need to make much of our interactions virtual to enable him to
>>> be involved as fully as he's willing to be.
>>> Anyway, give this a little thought, and let me know about your
>>> availability.  Feel free to suggest alternate times and days.  The
>>> next CHM SCC meeting is next Wednesday, and I'd dearly
>>> love to report some progress by then.
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Philip Gust
>>> Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>>> phone: +1 650 961-7992
>>> fax:   +1 508 526-8142
>>>
>>> mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Philip Gust
>> Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>>
>> phone: +1 650 961-7992
>> fax:   +1 508 526-8142
>>
>>
>> mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com 
> 
> 
> 
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