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Re: Initial NLS/Augment CHM meeting

To: Peter Yim <peter.yim@cim3.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cheyer <jonathan@cheyer.biz>
From: Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:37:24 -0800
Message-id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050210153607.03b1f2a8@mail.nouveausystems.com>
Well, any time Tuesday or early Wednesday would work for me.
I think that Jonathan needs to have the appointment be pre-work
hours.    (01)

At 01:44 PM 2/10/2005, Peter Yim wrote:
>Phil,
>
> > Peter, are you clear of your deliverable by Monday evening
> > if that works for everyone?
>
>To be honest, I don't know, as it is a joint-community project that we 
>committed to get out by Monday (which usually means "before people come to 
>work on Tuesday"). I'd rather not commit to anything for Monday at all 
>open, as it might even develop into an "all niter". Sorry.
>
>Any time Tuesday (especially now that you've ruled out early morning) will 
>be fine for me. Early Wednesday morning is fine with me too (assuming you 
>want to do that before your CHM meeting some time during the day.)
>
>Regards.  -ppy
>--
>
>
>Philip Gust wrote Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:17:16 -0800:
>>Peter,
>>Thanks for the response.  I just picked up a Tuesday 7-9am meeting, so
>>that morning is out.  It's possible that we could do a virtual meeting via a
>>phone conference for the first meeting.  It's primarily a planning meeting
>>to map out the project.  It feels like some for of synchronous collaboration
>>would be appropriate for that.  I could be available any time Tuesday for
>>such a meeting, including in the evening (I need to check my our home
>>calendar and confirm if evening is preferred).  Peter, are you clear of your
>>deliverable by Monday evening if that works for everyone?
>>Thanks, too for the names. It would be great if Doug were able to persuade
>>Jeff to get involved. I need to contact him now that his party is over to see
>>how he'd like to participate, so I'll mention that.  Hard to tell whether 
>>Jeff is
>>more appropriate as a resource or as an active member of the committee.
>>I had a sense that Raylene might be appropriate as an active member if
>>she's willing to participate.
>>So let me know which times work best for an initial phone meeting if that
>>works for everyone.  As I said, Tuesday 7-9am is no longer good for me.
>>At 12:57 PM 2/10/2005, Peter Yim wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Phil,
>>>
>>>Thank you for the message.
>>>
>>> > like to see if both of you would be available for an
>>> > organizing meeting next Monday or Tuesday ... breakfast
>>> > ... or dinner either day ...
>>>
>>>I have a major deliverable due Mon (2/14), therefore Tuesday is preferred.
>>>
>>>That said, if there is only going to be the three of us, and if there is 
>>>no added value in meeting face-to-face, may I suggest a phone conference 
>>>(augmented by whatever synchronous collaboration tool as we see fit) 
>>>instead. If we really need to meet in person, I am game too!
>>>
>>> > ... Raylene Pak ...
>>>
>>>The entry in my address book has her as <raylene_pak@sbcglobal.net>. I 
>>>have not quite corresponded w(or worked directly) with her before, 
>>>although we both know each other's name well. That would be a good 
>>>starting point if you want to try.
>>>
>>> > ... Jeff Oloffson ...
>>>
>>>Bill probably meant Jeff Rulifson <Jeff.Rulifson@eng.sun.com>. 
>>>Presumably, he was the system architect for AUGMENT. You can try him 
>>>yourself, or (better still), have Doug get him involved. [I was actually 
>>>surprised to not see him at Doug's 80th Birthday party!]
>>>
>>> > ...  best way to get Ken Harrenstien involved ...
>>>
>>>I guess if we work asynchronously through email, wiki, etc. (that 
>>>actually would be the preferred mode for me too), I don't think we 
>>>should have much problems. Comments ... other suggestions?
>>>
>>>-ppy
>>>--
>>>
>>>Philip Gust wrote Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:25:43 -0800:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>It was great to see both of you again at Doug's party.  Thanks for
>>>>your continued interest in working on the CHM pilot project to
>>>>preserve Augment/NLS as part of the CHM's software conservation
>>>>committee.
>>>>I want to apologize again that it's taken so long to get back to you
>>>>on getting an initial meeting.  I'm also our company's acting CFO
>>>>and we need to have all our documents filed for FY 2004 by Feb 15th,
>>>>so things have been just  little busy.  I'd like to see if both of you
>>>>would be available for an organizing meeting next Monday or Tuesday.
>>>>We could meet for breakfast, or get together for dinner either day.
>>>>I know that Jonathan has some constraints that make morning or
>>>>evening the best time to meet.  Peter, would you be available either
>>>>of those days?
>>>>
>>>>There are several people that we should consider getting involved
>>>>as active participants that we can talk about when we meet.
>>>>At the party I met Raylene Pak, who still works with Augment and
>>>>even recompiles it with some regularity. It would be great if she was
>>>>interested in getting involved, but I don't know how to contact her.
>>>>Do either of you know her well enough to have her contact info?
>>>>Bill English also suggested someone named Jeff Oloffson who he
>>>>says still might be at Sun and knows everything worth knowing
>>>>about the Augment architecture.  Do either of you know anything
>>>>about him?
>>>>Finally, we need to think through the best way to get Ken
>>>>Harrenstien involved.  I understand that it would be hard for him to
>>>>meet in person frequently, but he's a really great guy and very
>>>>knowledgeable.about running the Augment system.  We clearly
>>>>need to make much of our interactions virtual to enable him to
>>>>be involved as fully as he's willing to be.
>>>>Anyway, give this a little thought, and let me know about your
>>>>availability.  Feel free to suggest alternate times and days.  The
>>>>next CHM SCC meeting is next Wednesday, and I'd dearly
>>>>love to report some progress by then.
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>Philip Gust
>>>>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>>>>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>>>>fax:   +1 508 526-8142
>>>>
>>>>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Philip Gust
>>>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>>>
>>>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>>>fax:   +1 508 526-8142
>>>
>>>
>>>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>>
>
>
>Philip Gust
>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>
>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>fax:   +1 508 526-8142
>
>
>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com     (02)
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