Here's the text file (sorry for the formattting on the last msg.) -ppy
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:09:05 -0800, Peter Yim <peter.yim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Here's a recap of our meeting:
>
> //
> PhilG-JonC-PPY_20050216a.txt
>
> * met at LeBoulanger 2005.02.16 started 07:00am
> ** PhilGust, JonathanCheyer & PeterYim
>
> * 1. What it would mean, in the context of this pilot project, to say
>
> we've successfully "preserved" NLS/Augment.
>
> ** Task 1 -- Make publicly availabe a cloned version of AUGMENT
> -- to get the licensing issues out of the way, and get a workable version
>
> of AUGMENT up on a publicly accessible space (like sourceforge) so that
>
> it can be viewed, installed, played around with and studied by anyone.
>
> ** Task 2 -- restore a version of working AUGMENT on a platform that
>
> emulates its original native platform -- to be able to install AUGMENT
>
> image into a clean TOPS20/PDP-10 emulated platform
>
> ** Task 3 -- release a version of AUGMENT that is built from its own
>
> source that can run on a platform that emulates its original native
>
> platform
>
> ** Task 4 -- get a complete inventory of all the design, operations and
>
> training documentation, ... etc.; put them online, and made accessible
>
> through hyperlinking by anyone.
>
> ** as a non-goal in this project - we should not include in the scope
>
> anything newe, we should stayed focussed on preservation
>
> * 2. What steps should we take and in what order to accomplish
> this between now and, say August, how to partition tasks, and
> in more detail what should be our initial set of milestones.
>
> ** For Task 1:
>
> *** Boeing IPR release - public domain - [action: JohnToole]
> *** contact Raylene and bring her into the team - [action: Phil]
> *** get Doug's permission to allow Raylene and KenH to capture his
>
> AUGMENT image and expunge personal files - [action: Phil]
> *** Have KenH & Raylene go to Doug's office and grab a complete image of
>
> Doug's working system in a single session. Raylene will be the only
>
> person to hold onto the image, until all personal files have been purged.
> *** KenH will restore image on a linux box and verify that no personal
>
> files or deleted block are accessible (we'll call this a "clean clone")
> *** document the above ....
> *** the rest of "Task-1" to follow
>
> * 3. What resources do we need from the CHM to accomplish this.
>
> ** a couple of linux workstations (at least one) and a couple of
>
> harddisks
> ** setup a collaborative work space - Peter & Jonathan volunteered to
>
> setup a collaborative work environment under <chm.cim3.net> [action: Phil
>
> to get CHM to endorse this.]
> ** people as listed in requirements on this recap
> ** find out if John Toole needs anything from us (Phil, Jon & Peter)
>
> before talking to Boeing. Suggest forwarding John the thread where we
>
> discussed IPR issues. [action: Phil to find out; we could have a
>
> meeting/conf-call on this too, if necessary]
> ** also, consider getting HP to release the TOPS20 source and associated
>
> IPR into the public domain; maybe even do this step before approaching
>
> Boeing [action: Phil to talk to JohnT on this.]
>
> * 4. Who should be part of the "active" group, and who we need to
> have as part of the "advisory" group (including ex-Augment members
> who don't want to actively participate by have critical knowledge, or
> people like Jake Feinler from CHM or Henry Lowood from Stanford).
>
> ** Active: PhilGust, JonathanCheyer, PeterYim,
> *** try to recruit: KenHarrenstein, RaylenePak, ShinyaYamada,
>
> ** Advisory: JohnToole, DougEngelbart, JakeFeinler, HenryLowood,
>
> BillDuvall;
> *** try to recruit: ChristinaEngelbart, JeffRulifson, BillEnglish,
>
> CharlesIrby
>
> ** we'll send out invitations to all potential advisors (and let them opt
>
> out, if they don't want to get involved, they way, we won't offend
>
> anyone.)
>
> * 5. We need to consider Doug's role, since his participation is
> critical, yet his participation may fall somewhere between "active"
> and "advisory". He should feel as included as he wants and is
> able to Let's discuss how to create that space for him.
>
> ** suggest having Doug as the "Distinguished Advisor" to this project,
>
> and let him decide how active he wants to be. He will have complete
>
> access to everything we do.
>
> ** we could do periodic meetings at his home, besides the museum
>
> * 6. What tools will we use to collaborate and capture our work.
>
> ** candidate <chm.cim3.net> -- a "community only" cwe as discussed above.
>
> Access provided to all members of the team, advisors, and all CHM
>
> personnel. [action: Phil will confirm to Peter & Jon later today]
>
> --
> meeting adjourned 9:05am
> notes by ppy/2005.02.16
> //
>
> Cheers. -ppy
> --
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:22:30 -0800, Philip Gust <gust@nouveausystems.com>
>wrote:
> > Well, then how about at the same place we met a couple of
> > weeks ago, around 7am. Will that work for both of you?
> >
> > I'd like to propose that we try to get through the following things:
> >
> > 1. What it would mean, in the context of this pilot project, to
> > say we've successfully "preserved" NLS/Augment.
> >
> > 2. What steps should we take and in what order to accomplish
> > this between now and, say August, how to partition tasks, and
> > in more detail what should be our initial set of milestones.
> >
> > 3. What resources do we need from the CHM to accomplish this.
> >
> > 4. Who should be part of the "active" group, and who we need to
> > have as part of the "advisory" group (including ex-Augment members
> > who don't want to actively participate by have critical knowledge, or
> > people like Jake Feinler from CHM or Henry Lowood from Stanford).
> >
> > 5. We need to consider Doug's role, since his participation is
> > critical, yet his participation may fall somewhere between "active"
> > and "advisory". He should feel as included as he wants and is
> > able to Let's discuss how to create that space for him.
> >
> > 6. What tools will we use to collaborate and capture our work.
> >
> > Please feel free to add or suggest changes to this list. Let me
> > know if this works for everyone.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> > At 01:21 PM 2/11/2005, Peter Yim wrote:
> > >Phil & Jonathan,
> > >
> > >Wednesday 2/16/05 early morning is fine with me. Mountain View is fine too.
> > >
> > >Phil, since you call the meeting, you decide where and when.
> > >
> > >Regards. -ppy
> > >--
> > >
> > >Philip Gust wrote Fri, 11 Feb 2005 06:40:17 -0800:
> > >>Jonathan,
> > >>Wednesday early morning would be good for me. Peter, I'd prefer an
>initial
> > >>face-to-face meeting as well. Kind of strange for a hard-core
>collaboration
> > >>guy, I know, but there it is... If that's not possible by Wednesday,
> > >>better to
> > >>get a start on it using phone and other tools.
> > >>If we can have an initial face-to-face meeting, which city is most
>convenient
> > >>for everyone? Bucks over in is possible, but there's also the place we
> > >>met in
> > >>Mt. View before. We could even meet at my office (just down the street on
> > >>Evelyn just past the 85 overpass) and I bring in breakfast.
> > >>Let me know what you're all able to do.
> > >>BTW, you can see in another email that I'm talking with Ken about getting
> > >>a copy of the emulator up and running. Not sure if he needs to be at this
> > >>initial planning meeting, but definitely want to keep him in the loop on
> > >>future
> > >>ones. Peter, since you have the best rapport with Doug, it would probably
> > >>be best for him if you were to lead the discussion with him about how to
> > >>"sanitize" a cloned copy of NLS/Augment, if that's something you're
>willing
> > >>to take on. Let me know on this.
> > >
> > >>At 06:43 PM 2/10/2005, Jonathan Cheyer wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi Phil,
> > >>>
> > >>>Since it sounds like Monday is out for Peter, and Tuesday morning is out
> > >>>for you, then either Tuesday evening (6 pm or later) or Wednesday
> > >>>morning (before 9 am) would be a good time.
> > >>>
> > >>>I always prefer to meet with people in person whenever possible, since I
> > >>>spend enough time on the computer already :-). However, given Peter's
> > >>>preference and especially if Ken can be convinced to join the working
> > >>>group, it definitely makes sense to do much of the work virtually to
> > >>>allow everyone the best opportunity to participate. Ken's email is
> > >>>klh@panix.com.
> > >>>
> > >>>I also got a chance to speak with Raylene at Doug's party, and agree
> > >>>with you that she would be a valuable person to include as well.
> > >>>
> > >>>Jonathan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Philip Gust wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Well, any time Tuesday or early Wednesday would work for me.
> > >>>>I think that Jonathan needs to have the appointment be pre-work
> > >>>>hours.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Philip Gust
> > >>>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
> > >>>
> > >>>phone: +1 650 961-7992
> > >>>fax: +1 508 526-8142
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >Philip Gust
> > >Nouveau Systems, Inc.
> > >
> > >phone: +1 650 961-7992
> > >fax: +1 508 526-8142
> > >
> > >
> > >mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
> >
> >
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