Vint, (01)
I'm just checking back to see if we can get an early indication about
whether MCI/Verizon would be willing to provide a similar kind of
letter to the ones from Boeing and BT. (02)
Best regards, (03)
At 11:41 AM 3/17/2006, Vint Cerf wrote:
>That is really good news
>
>
>Vinton G Cerf
>Chief Internet Evangelist
>Google/Regus
>Suite 384
>13800 Coppermine Road
>Herndon, VA 20171
>
>+1 703 234-1823
>+1 703-234-5822 (f)
>
>vint@google.com
>www.google.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Philip Gust [mailto:gust@NouveauSystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:09 PM
>To: Vint Cerf; 'Philip Gust'
>Cc: 'Ken Harrenstien'; 'NLS Restoration Legal Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>: Re: vint cerf]
>
>Vint,
>
>Thanks again for your help. We just had some great news: Scott Griffin,
>Boeing's CIO just had their VP for Intellectual Property issue a letter
>along the lines we were looking for. We have also asked Kurt Carlson at SRI
>for something similar and expect to get that fairly soon, too. Once we have
>all of these in place, we'll be in a good legal position to justify
>releasing NLS/Augment, hopefully in the time frame of SRI's 60th anniversary
>in October. After working for over a year on legal issues, you can imagine
>how great it feels to have things start coming together.
>
>Best regards,
>
>At 10:19 AM 3/16/2006, Vint Cerf wrote:
> >Thanks for this rendition. Shared with MCI
> >
> >
> >Vinton G Cerf
> >Chief Internet Evangelist
> >Google/Regus
> >Suite 384
> >13800 Coppermine Road
> >Herndon, VA 20171
> >
> >+1 703 234-1823
> >+1 703-234-5822 (f)
> >
> >vint@google.com
> >www.google.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Philip Gust [mailto:gust@acm.org]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:58 AM
> >To: Vint Cerf
> >Cc: Ken Harrenstien; NLS Restoration Legal Discussion
> >Subject: RE: [Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>: Re: vint cerf]
> >
> >Vint,
> >
> >Here's some background information. We've definitely traced the
> >ownership of NLS/Augment from SRI through Tymshare/Tymnet to McDonnell
> >Douglas. We have evidence that ownership transferred to British
> >Telecommunications: two trademarks for Augment (73256814, and
> >73647182) transferred to BT on 11/20/1989, prior to Boeing's
> >acquisition of McDonnell Douglas. We also have evidence that BT
> >transferred ownersihp to
> >MCI: one of the trademarks (73256814) transferred from BT to MCI on
> >7/25/1995.
> >
> >Based on this, BT issued the following statement:
> >
> >"BT believes that any intellectual property rights it held in the NLS /
> >Augment technology passed with other assets to MCI in the 1990s.
> >However, with respect to any such IPR's retained by BT then so far as
> >BT is concerned, it has no issue with the Computer History Museum using
> >the NLS / Augment copyrights in a not-for-profit capacity for the
> >benefit of the general public. BT however makes no representation or
> >warranty as to its actually retaining any such IPRs; the Computer
> >History Museum's reliance on this letter; or the Computer History Museum's
>use of NLS / Augment."
> >
> >
> >Here is the statement we're discussing with Boeing:
> >
> >"Boeing believes that ownership of of NLS/Augment passed with other
> >assets formerly from McDonnell Douglas to British Telecommunications
> >PLC in late 1989, prior to Boeing's acquisition of McDonnell Douglas.
> >As far as Boeing is concerned, we have no issue with the Computer
> >History Museum using such NLS/Augment copyrights in a not-for-profit
> >capacity for the benefit of the general public. Boeing makes no
> >representation or warranty as to such use."
> >
> >Hopefully the MCI legal group will be able to provide a similar kind of
> >statement based on the evidence we've accumulated and the action BT and
> >expected action by Boeing. If you need any further information, please
> >let me know.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >At 06:59 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
> > >I am working with the head of engineering/operations, Fred Briggs, at
> > >Verizon to try to get their legal department to sign off on your use
> > >of this software. I honestly doubt that MCI ever had rights to the
> > >software in which case the lawyers may balk at appearing to grant
> > >rights they never had - but they might be willing to say they have no
> >objections.
> > >
> > >Vint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Vinton G Cerf
> > >Chief Internet Evangelist
> > >Google/Regus
> > >Suite 384
> > >13800 Coppermine Road
> > >Herndon, VA 20171
> > >
> > >+1 703 234-1823
> > >+1 703-234-5822 (f)
> > >
> > >vint@google.com
> > >www.google.com
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Philip Gust [mailto:gust@acm.org]
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:09 AM
> > >To: Vint Cerf; 'Ken Harrenstien'
> > >Cc: NLS Restoration Legal Discussion
> > >Subject: RE: [Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>: Re: vint cerf]
> > >
> > >Vint,
> > >
> > >We have the software from Doug Engelbart. We'd like to make all of
> > >the copyrighted Augment/NLS material available through CHM for
> > >non-commercial use.
> > >
> > >We already have a letter in hand from BT. It says, that they have no
> > >record of holding any intellectual property including copyright, but
> > >that they have no objection for their part to CHM releasing any
> > >copyrighted NLS/Augment material for non-commercial use. We're also
> > >working with Scott Griffin, Boeing's CIO to get a similar letter. If
> > >we have letters from all parties along the chain of ownership, the
> > >CHM legal committee will be comfortable assuming the risk of
> > >authorizing the
> >release.
> > >
> > >Thanks for your help with this, Vint.
> > >
> > >At 03:57 AM 3/16/2006, Vint Cerf wrote:
> > > >Phil,
> > > >
> > > >I asked Verizon to look into this and they claim (and MCI also)
> > > >that they show no record of holding any intellectual property rights in
>NLS.
> > > >Do you actually have access to the software and just want
> > > >assurances that you can use it or are you trying to get the
> > > >software in addition to permission to use it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Vinton G Cerf
> > > >Chief Internet Evangelist
> > > >Google/Regus
> > > >Suite 384
> > > >13800 Coppermine Road
> > > >Herndon, VA 20171
> > > >
> > > >+1 703 234-1823
> > > >+1 703-234-5822 (f)
> > > >
> > > >vint@google.com
> > > >www.google.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Ken Harrenstien [mailto:klh@panix.com]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:06 AM
> > > >To: vint@google.com
> > > >Cc: gust@NouveauSystems.com; klh@panix.com
> > > >Subject: [Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>: Re: vint cerf]
> > > >
> > > >No need for me to be in the middle except as a very interested
>onlooker.
> > > >Have at it.
> > > >
> > > >--Ken
> > > >
> > > >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:50:44 -0800
> > > >To: Ken Harrenstien <klh@panix.com>
> > > >From: Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: vint cerf
> > > >Cc: NLS Restoration Legal Discussion <nls-legal@chm.cim3.net>
> > > >
> > > >Ken,
> > > >
> > > >I was hoping to make contact with Vint to discuss specific steps
> > > >that he might do to help us navigate the waters at MCI/Verizon.
> > > >Could you ask him whether he'd be open to my contacting him
> > > >directly on this, and the best way to reach him?
> > > >
> > > >At 12:48 AM 1/26/2006, Ken Harrenstien wrote:
> > > > >You each just pinged me about this. Trying both barrels, huh?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Phil Gust and I have been trying to find a contact in the
> > > > > > legal department of MCI so that we can continue trying to
> > > > > > obtain approval to use and/or transfer of rights for the CHM
> > > > > > for the
> > >software.
> > > > > > However, we have not been able to get any contacts as yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would you be willing to approach Vint and see if he could help
> > > > > > out the CHM in this endeavor?
> > > > >
> > > > >Certainly -- we chatted just a couple weeks ago. I'll forward
> > > > >your notes, and add a little context. He's pretty busy as you
> > > > >can imagine but I'm sure he will do what he can.
> > > > >
> > > > >--Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Philip Gust
> > > >Nouveau Systems, Inc.
> > > >3120 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 120
> > > >Santa Clara, CA 95054
> > > >
> > > >phone: +1 650 961-7992
> > > >fax: +1 520 843-7217
> > >
> > >
> > >Philip Gust
> > >(650) 961-7992 (daytime)
> > >(650) 367-7763 (evening)
> > >gust@acm.org
> >
> >
> >Philip Gust
> >(650) 961-7992 (daytime)
> >(650) 367-7763 (evening)
> >gust@acm.org
>
>
>Philip Gust
>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>3120 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 120
>Santa Clara, CA 95054
>
>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>fax: +1 520 843-7217
>
>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>
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