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[nls-technical] Fwd: RE: [SCC_Active_Members] Notes from last month's NL

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From: Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:58:46 -0800
Message-id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060317105832.1250c178@NouveauSystems.com>

>Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:55:24 -0800
>To: "Dag Spicer" <spicer@computerhistory.org>
>From: Philip Gust <gust@NouveauSystems.com>
>Subject: RE: [SCC_Active_Members] Notes from last month's NLS status report
>
>Thanks, Dag.  Are you around sometime this afternoon?  Maybe we can 
>get together in person or by phone to come up with something.  We 
>just got some great news today: Scott Griffin, Boeing's CIO just had 
>their VP for Intellectual Property send John Toole a release letter 
>like the one we had from BT.  Once Vint Cerf works his magic at 
>Verizon and we get something from Kurt Carlson at SRI, we'll have 
>the legal piece in place to recommend releasing NLS/Augment through 
>CHM to the legal committee.
>
>We don't want to jeopardize the keysets in the collection, and 
>believe what we're proposing is safe and sane. If this doesn't work 
>out, we'll try to find another source for a Xerox keyset if we can 
>(e.g. from Bill English or by putting out a call for help). We think 
>that it's really important to investigate the relationship between 
>the SRI keysets we have and the ones built by Bill English after he 
>left SRI and went to Xerox.  We want to understand how they evolved 
>after leaving SRI.
>
>Let me know what works for you today.
>
>At 10:16 AM 3/17/2006, you wrote:
>>Wow--impressive effort Phillip!
>>
>>Let's you and me connect wrt to the chordsets.
>>
>>I need a research plan before you can go into the collection and probe
>>anything.
>>
>>Best wishes,
>>
>>Dag.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: scc_active-bounces@computerhistory.org
>>[mailto:scc_active-bounces@computerhistory.org] On Behalf Of Philip Gust
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:50 PM
>>To: SCC_active@computerhistory.org
>>Subject: [SCC_Active_Members] Notes from last month's NLS status report
>>
>>I apologize for neglecting to send these out after last month's meeting.
>>
>>NLS/Augment Talking Points
>>SCC Meeting 2/15/2006
>>
>>
>>Technical
>>
>>- Cooperating with NFS funded HyperScope project run by Eugene Kim of
>>Blue Oxen
>>
>>- Jonathan and Phil to get second NLS system installed on Phil's machine
>>          - Phil will investigate interfacing existing keysets to
>>JAugTerm under Windows and MacOS
>>          - Once done, will try to move Doug over to JAugTerm, and
>>tune until he's satisfied
>>          - Long-term would prefer making entire window system keyset
>>enabled, rather than just JAugTerm
>>
>>- Jonathan Cheyer is continuing to study NLS internals and
>>datastructures
>>          - Investigating feasibility of creating an XML based data
>>model to match current structures
>>          - Would like to export NLS content using data model for
>>study and reuse
>>
>>-  Artifacts
>>          - Jonathan now has all Doug's keysets and is working with a
>>Sun engineer to identify working and document their interfaces
>>          - Ken Harenstein will donate his schematics for the Line
>>Processor
>>          - Dave Hopper (the author of the DOS AugTerm program has
>>Line Processor #1 and will donate
>>          - Jeff Rulifson has given Jonathan a CD with source code and
>>materials from early SDS 940 (c. 1968) version NLS
>>          - Need to get paper/PDF forms to give people with artifacts
>>to donate (web form isn't good enough)
>>
>>- Phil is investigating options for more keysets
>>          - Talking with John Sechrest at AO in Portland about
>>building small lot -- John will provide quote in the next week
>>          - Looking at commercially available USB chordic keyboards.
>>None are exact match, but several are promising:
>>                  Bellaire wireless:
>>http://www.bellaire.demon.co.uk/newcykey.htm
>>                  Infogrip BAT:
>>http://www.infogrip.com/product_view.asp?RecordNumber=12
>>          - Jeff Rulifson recommends considering commercially
>>available ones; may eliminate need to use mouse buttons to make up
>>for only 5 keys
>>          - Have found several chordic keyboard "standards" out there;
>>will investigate whether any of these would be acceptable
>>
>>- Jonathan needs to get additional modules that Raylene Pak did not
>>include with Augment release she gave us
>>          - e.g. Spreadsheet
>>          - Add them in before public release
>>
>>
>>Legal
>>
>>-  Boeing
>>          - Continuing saga with Boeing.
>>          - Working with Sally Abel to find wording that Kathy
>>Gallagher's boss at Boeing will sign off on.
>>          - Issue is that they have no records; all hearsay, are being
>>cautious
>>          - Kathy had originally said Boeing would commit to following:
>>
>>"Boeing has no existing or continuing ownership rights or interests
>>in the Augment software, including (but not limited to) any copyright
>>and/or trademark rights in the work, and will not take any action
>>against the CHM in connection with any rights associated with or
>>interests in Augment:
>>
>>          - If she balks at that, will at least will try for the
>>following:
>>
>>"McDonnell Douglas transferred registered US trademarks 1487229 and
>>73256814 for AUGMENT to British Telecommunications PLC on 11/20/1989,
>>prior to Boeing's acquisition of McDonnell Douglas.  Boeing has no
>>records on the software itself.  Consequently, Boeing cannot make any
>>claim about its ownership of copyrights or other intellectual
>>property in the software, or take any position regarding the use of
>>Augment by the Computer History Museum."
>>
>>-  BT
>>          - Potential win at BT!
>>          - Simon Garrett of BT has agreed to provide a letter.
>>          - Phil has given John Toole draft request letter with
>>wording to send to Peter Ratcliffe at BT, who will writer on behalf of
>>BT
>>          - Other potential lead at BT, Kevin Purell went cold
>>
>>- MCI/Verizon
>>          - Jonathan's network has led to contact with Janis Manning,
>>Verizon's Assistant General Counsel, Trademarks & Copyrights, and
>>Anita Odonovich, an attorney who works in her group. Will follow up
>>later this week
>>          - Ken Harrenstein has relayed our request to Vint Cerf for
>>assistance;
>>          - Vint has agreed to help (like Lew Platt at Boeing).
>>          - Need to pass Jannis's and Anita's name on to Vint once we
>>get a game plan.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Philip Gust
>>(650) 961-7992 (daytime)
>>(650) 367-7763 (evening)
>>gust@acm.org
>>
>>
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>
>Philip Gust
>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>3120 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 120
>Santa Clara, CA 95054
>
>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>fax:   +1 520 843-7217
>
>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>
>Nouveau Systems collaboration-enabled infrastructure and 
>applications provide integrated information management, process 
>automation and knowledge capture.  To learn how Nouveau Systems 
>products can help your knowledge-based organization drive 
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