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Re: [nls-archive] NLS/Augment

To: "Philip Gust" <gust@acm.org>
Cc: nls-archive@chm.cim3.net
From: "Griffin, Scott D" <scott.d.griffin@boeing.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:23:47 -0800
Message-id: <FE10499CE029B841A9DAAF12E5A52A1B026BF13F@XCH-NW-3V1.nw.nos.boeing.com>
I have tried six times unsuccessfully to get you an email.  I give up.     (01)


Scott    (02)

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Gust [mailto:gust@acm.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:59 AM
To: Griffin, Scott D
Cc: nls-archive@chm.cim3.net
Subject: Re: NLS/Augment
Importance: High    (03)

Scott,    (04)

I wanted to make sure you received my last message and that you weren't
still experiencing problems with mail bouncing.    (05)

We're working with Vint Cerf on MCI, and it looks like we're going to
get a similar statement to the one we received from BT. Kurt Carlson,
the president of SRI, has also agreed to provide one on SRI's behalf.
That only leaves McDonnell Douglas / Boeing.  Would you be willing to
talk sometime today to discuss what might be possible or who else I
should contact within Boeing?  The kind of statement we're after
presents little or no risk to Boeing, and it would be of very material
help to the Computer History Museum. We're trying to release NLS/Augment
to the community to coincide with SRI's 60th anniversary in October, so
I'm feeling a some time pressure to complete the legal side as soon as
possible.  I'd really appreciate your help on this.    (06)

At 11:10 AM 3/14/2006, Philip Gust wrote:
>Scott,
>
>Thanks for letting me know about this.  Nouveau Systems moved to new 
>offices several weeks ago, and I know there were a few days during the 
>ISP change-over that caused some emails to bounce.  It looks like 
>things are working again, though.  Would you mind resending your 
>earlier email?  If you'd like to talk directly, let me know when would 
>be convenient for you.
>
>(How widely did the BlackBerry case effect you guys?  Is Boeing a big 
>BlackBerry user?)
>
>At 06:44 PM 3/13/2006, Griffin, Scott D wrote:
>>All of my emails  to you have been returned as undeliverable.
>>
>> >From Mumbai,
>>
>>--------------------------
>>Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld scott.d.griffin@boeing.com
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Philip Gust
>>To: Griffin, Scott D
>>Sent: Mon Mar 13 11:37:34 2006
>>Subject: Re:
>>
>>Scott,
>>
>>Would there be a good time this week that we could talk by phone for a    (07)

>>few minutes?  I can schedule at your convenience.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>At 08:41 AM 3/4/2006, Philip Gust wrote:
>> >Hi Scott,
>> >
>> >Our emailer has been having some trouble, so I wanted to make sure 
>> >that you received this message.
>> >
>> >At 05:53 AM 3/2/2006, Philip Gust wrote:
>> >>Hi,Scott,
>> >>
>> >>This is a follow-up on or earlier discussion of the NLS/Augment
issue.
>> >>
>> >>We've definitely traced the ownership of NLS/Augment from SRI 
>> >>through Tymshare/Tymnet to McDonnell Douglas. We have indications 
>> >>that ownership transferred to British Telecommunications: two 
>> >>trademarks for Augment (73256814, and 73647182) transferred to BT 
>> >>on 11/20/1989, prior to Boeing's acquisition of McDonnell Douglas.    (08)

>> >>We also have indications that BT transferred ownersihp to
>> >>MCI: one of the trademarks (73256814) transferred from BT to MCI
>> on 7/25/1995.
>> >>
>> >>We've taken stock of Boeing's earlier feedback, and are now trying 
>> >>to get a simple, non-binding statement from each of the companies 
>> >>for the CHM NLS/Augment restoration project records.  BT has agreed    (09)

>> >>to supply such a statement (see attached). With the help of Vint 
>> >>Cerf, MCI's former Executive VP, we're working with Janis Manning, 
>> >>MCI/Verizon's Assistant General Counsel, Trademarks & Copyrights on    (010)

>> >>a similar statement.
>> >>
>> >>We were hoping to get a similar non-binding statement from Boeing.    (011)

>> >>Kathy Gallagher had originally agreed to give us such a statement. 
>> >>However, her supervisor wasn't comfortable with issuing it from 
>> >>their office, since it isn't strictly speaking a legal issue, and 
>> >>recommended going back to you.
>> >>
>> >>The statement we'd like to have is exactly along same lines as the 
>> >>one from BT:
>> >>
>> >>"Boeing believes that ownership of of NLS/Augment passed with other    (012)

>> >>assets formerly from McDonnell Douglas to British 
>> >>Telecommunications PLC in late 1989, prior to Boeing's acquisition 
>> >>of McDonnell Douglas. As far as Boeing is concerned, we have no 
>> >>issue with the Computer History Museum using such NLS/Augment 
>> >>copyrights in a not-for-profit capacity for the benefit of the 
>> >>general public.  Boeing makes no representation or warranty as
>> to such use."
>> >>
>> >>Would you be able to write a letter that includes such a 
>> >>non-binding statement on behalf of Boeing, or refer us to someone 
>> >>within your circle at Boeing who could?  I know that you are in 
>> >>touch with Jim McNerney, and it might even be helpful for you to 
>> >>approach him informally to see if he'd support doing that. If you 
>> >>do, feel free to share the attached letter from John Toole to BT 
>> >>with him as background. I know that Lew was eager to help us with 
>> >>this, and hope that you and perhaps Jim might be willing to carry 
>> >>the banner on this request.
>> >>
>> >>I really appreciate your help on this, however things turn out.  If    (013)

>> >>you do visit the SF Bay area, please let me know.  I enjoyed 
>> >>talking with you earlier, and It would be great to get together in
person.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Philip Gust
>> >>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>> >>
>> >>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>> >>fax:   +1 520 843-7217
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>> >
>> >
>> >Philip Gust
>> >Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>> >3120 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 120
>> >Santa Clara, CA 95054
>> >
>> >phone: +1 650 961-7992
>> >fax:   +1 520 843-7217
>> >
>> >mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>> >
>> >Nouveau Systems collaboration-enabled infrastructure and 
>> >applications enable integrated information management, process 
>> >automation and knowledge capture.  To learn how Nouveau Systems 
>> >products can help your knowledge-based organization drive 
>> >innovation, visit: http://www.NouveauSystems.com
>>
>>
>>Philip Gust
>>(650) 961-7992 (daytime)
>>(650) 367-7763 (evening)
>>gust@acm.org
>
>
>Philip Gust
>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>3120 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 120
>Santa Clara, CA 95054
>
>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>fax:   +1 520 843-7217
>
>mailto: gust@NouveauSystems.com
>
>Nouveau Systems collaboration-enabled infrastructure and applications 
>provide integrated information management, process automation and 
>knowledge capture.  To learn how Nouveau Systems products can help your    (014)

>knowledge-based organization drive innovation, visit: 
>http://www.NouveauSystems.com    (015)


Philip Gust
(650) 961-7992 (daytime)
(650) 367-7763 (evening)
gust@acm.org     (016)
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